Aike Martín Centlivre
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Aike Martín Centlivre

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Communication Preferences: I am interested in communicating private message with cousins and anyone else with an interest in genealogy. My family tree is at <https://www.familysearch.org>.
I speak Spanish, French, English and Japanese. I'm not as fluent in Japanese, but I can answer messages in the four languages :)
Born 2000s.
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Hello Aike,

Today, I read that you are interested in the Notable Project and I'm reaching out to you because that's a project that I'm quite active in. I'm intrigued that your family tree has many ancestors from France and Spain.

I have two questions for you: 1) Are you a fluent speaker/reader/writer of both French and Spanish?; and 2) Do you have access to genealogy repositories based in France and Spain that could help make Wikitree profiles more complete?

Thank you for your time - Judi Stutz-25

posted by Judi Stutz
Hello Judi!

Short answer is: yes to both questions. I'm both Spanish and French myself. Most of the resources I use are available online, but the grand majority are written in French or Spanish and a few have an interesting mix of Latin and French.

Long answer is, I'm not sure which sources are listed on each country's projects, so I'll just list them here in case you find any of them helpful!

posted by Aike Martín Centlivre
For French genealogy, I mainly use departmental archives: https://www.archives-departementales.com/#google_vignette

This website displays a map of France, it allows you to click on the part of France you're interested in and then redirects you to its own website. I have only investigated the northern, western, and southwestern departments, though, so I can't say for sure that it works as well for other departments since I haven't checked them.

Asides form departmental archives, I often use LISA90: https://www.lisa90.org/lisa/pages/accueil.php This is another website that has indexed most archives from the historical region of Alsace. It makes it possible to look for specific names, surnames, places, periods of time, couples... And redirect you to their respective sources. It also has various entries about the history of the region and other very useful tools regarding genealogical research.

Another website I use for French genealogy is Filae. Even though it's not a completely free website and you need an account to log in, I find it very useful too. It specializes in French ancestry.

Then there’s Swiss cantonal documents, of which many actually are written in French: https://www.cgaeb-jura.ch/entraide/les-registres-paroissiaux-suisses-en-ligne/ This website is also equipped with a list of Swiss cantons so you can be redirected to their specific websites.

Another two useful websites are Mémoires des Hommes, which contains military archives: https://www.memoiredeshommes.sga.defense.gouv.fr/fr/

MatchID: https://deces.matchid.io/search

It’s a website that allows to search for 27 million death records since 1970 from INSEE's official records (French National Institute for Statistics and Economic Studies).

And finally, I recently stumbled across a website called Bibliothèque Nationale de France: https://www.bnf.fr/fr

It contains an immense variety of documents, among which you can find another website called Gallica: https://gallica.bnf.fr/accueil/

Gallica contains genealogy related documents as well. You can find anything from lists of war prisoners at the start of the Second World War, to old press, scholarly journals or even photographs. I find it especially helpful since it provides Open Acces to the Bulletin du Cercle Généalogique d'Alsace up to 2015's publications.

posted by Aike Martín Centlivre
edited by Aike Martín Centlivre
Regarding Spanish sources, I must admit I personally find them quite scarce. MyHeritage barely has any, Filae doesn't suggest non-french documents (asides from Swiss ones, at least in my experience), and FamilySearch has huge gaps of information. There is no specific genealogy related Spanish website, at least not that I know of. Not all region's archives have been digitalized (up until now I’ve only seen the regions Barcelona, Gerona, Murcia, Salamanca, Ciudad Real and some of Jaén’s census) and the ones that have contain mostly parish records like baptisms, marriages, and burials.

It might be possible to look for information in academic papers on JStor and other websites of the sort, but I haven’t tried yet. It could also be the case that there are other Spanish resources I don't know of, of course.

Luckly for me, most of my Spanish ancestors barely moved from the region Ciudad Real. Along with Barcelona, Gerona, Murcia and Salamanca, this five regions do have digitalized archives accesible on FamilySearch that have an integrated index of the region's cities and villages: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-67KQ-Z36?i=42

There often are gaps or documents missing, though, but overall it does the trick.

I think some cities have documents available at the local library, so I will have to check this summer to see if there are any documents that are not available online.

posted by Aike Martín Centlivre
edited by Aike Martín Centlivre
I almost forgot to mention it, I think the two surnames part of Spanish genealogy is what makes it the most difficult to take advantage of other websites or resources. Since we have two surnames, one from each parent (and sometimes there even are compound family names) apps or websites don't typically predict correctly what our parent's surnames are. And most Spanish sources I've found only mention people's first surname. So, when reading a baptism record, for example, you must deduct the child's surnames by writing down the father's first one followed by the mother's first one. And unless they give you the grandparents’ first surname too (which thankfully they usually do) you can't know the second surname of the parents. I imagine how that could be confusing to those who only have one surname, haha.

I hope that answered your question and wasn't too long to read. Anything I can do, I’m happy to help! :)

posted by Aike Martín Centlivre
Hello Aikre Martin, please do not upload any more gedcoms or add more profiles without sources. Please read over the WikiTree Honor Code. Thank you.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Special:Honor_Code

posted by Maggie N.
I apologize if I caused any trouble, I do have the sources but I don't know why they don't add themselves with the rest of the GEDCOM file. I guess I'll have to add them myself one by one. I've been really busy with my studies but I'll try adding as much sources as I can for every unsourced profile I've added.

Once again, I apologize for the trouble. I'll be fixing it from now on :)

posted by Aike Martín Centlivre
Hello,

WikiTree members collaborate and help each other. I have noticed that many of your created profiles where the LNAB (Last Name At Birth) are all capitalized. Our policy is to capitalize only the first letter of the surname. Here is a link to our HELP page and the section: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Name_Fields

Capitalization Use capitalization as appropriate. For example, McClellan instead of Mcclellan.

It is never appropriate to use ALL CAPS.

I hope this helps,

Phillip

posted by Phillip Jares
I hadn't realised, it's a personal sistem I use to distinguish maiden names and married names. Thanks for letting me know!

I'll correct that.

It'll take some time, though, there's too many people on my tree, haha

Thanks :)

posted by Aike Martín Centlivre
There's a lot to learn! Many people have used all caps previously and did not know of the WT policy. We help each other and all is better!
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posted by Phillip Jares
Hi Aike,

Thanks for adding profiles to your family tree. When you are ready, do you know how to add sources for your info? It's especially important to add sources at the time we create a profile the further back in time we go, as those profiles have more descendants and affect more trees. If you have questions let me know. You can also find help in the Help pages and in the G2G forum.

Francesca

posted by Francesca Murphy
Hi,

Congratulations on certifying to work on pre-1700 profiles!

It’s very important to read and understand the Help:Pre-1700 Profiles page. These profiles for deep ancestors are shared by many, and collaborating on them works best if we all follow the guidelines laid out on that page.

Primary sources should always be added to pre-1700 profiles at the time they are created. If you don't have a source for a pre-1700 profile, it would be best to ask for help in the G2G forum before creating the profile.

Thanks again, and good luck with your research.

Day Garwood

WikiTree Greeter

Hello Aike,

We are so happy you decided to upgrade to the Family Member level.

Please visit our tutorial pages to learn how to use WikiTree: How To Use WikiTree. They will save you time, energy, and frustration as you add your family profiles.

Exploring the site is the best way to learn. One way to do that is to check out the drop-down menus on the top right side of your profile page. Finding a known ancestor and collaborating with the profile manager is another great way to start.

Questions? You can always use the G2G link in the Help Menu to find answers.

Karen Lorenz - Wikitree Greeter

posted by Karen (Rollet) Lorenz
Welcome to WikiTree!

If you have any questions about WikiTree, just click the option to reply to this message and let me know how I can help.

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posted by Pip Sheppard

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